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steve3742 28 Jul 09:05  

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Hi. It's always struck me as strange how hard it is to get cycle route information about cycling from one city to another. Even nearby cities. Like Nottingham to Derby - only a twenty mile route but it's actually quite hard to find (on the internet) details of how to cycle there. It's part of Cycle Route 6 and you could buy the Sustrans Derby to York map - but it seems a lot of hassle to go to for a relatively short route (and am I the only one who thinks that getting details on Sustrans routes is quite hard? The major routes are covered by their map series, but info about the minor ones like route 15 or 64 isn't too easy to get.)

Anyway, I thought it'd be a good idea if everone who's a member here posts rides from the town/city where they live to the adjacent ones. That way, we could build up a database of routes that could all join together. So, for example, for Nottingham I could post details of Nottingham-Derby, Nottingham-Leicester, Nottingham-Loughborough, Nottingham-Newark, Nottingham-Lincoln and Nottingham-Sheffield. And someone who lives in Leicester could post Leicester-Nottingham and also Leicester-Northampton. Then the Northants guys could post Northampton-Milton Keynes and Northampton-Oxford... well, you get the idea. Eventually, it would be possible to plot a route from Sheffield to London.

Cycle routes are different from the results you'd get from AA Routemaster or similar. We prefer to ride away from the main roads and we often have the option of taking short cuts that cars can't. Local knowledge will often give you these details, but local knowledge is, well, local. But if everyone posts [b:95cf0164c7]their [/b:95cf0164c7]local knowledge, we'd soon have a good cycling database. What does everyone think?

For my part of the deal, I'm going to post the Nottingham-Derby details soon (that's the Sustrans route - would there be copyright problems?) And I'm planning a cycling holiday around Lincolnshire soon so I should be able to post Nottingham-Newark and Newark-Lincoln (which, of course, combine to make Nottingham-Lincoln) along with some others in Lincolnshire (assuming the Lincolnshire people don't get there first.) So, anyone else who's got any knowledge of cycle routes, post away.

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Magna 01 Feb 17:54  

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I want to know a good Newcastle-London route. I hope to copy Alan Shearer in the summer who is undertaking this in 2 days for Sport Relief.


kingal86 22 Mar 20:34  

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The only online directions software of much use to cyclists is the Multimap.com directions set to "Walking": however they essentially treat you as a car moving at c. 3 miles an hour, and still send you up a lot of main roads. It does cut out all the motorways however, and does help give a rough idea of a rote's distance and can help in planning with a map.

One of the things I find is it's hard to tell from a map how busy a road is, or how crazy or dangerous a roundabout or other junction would be for a cyclist. After all, the odd dual carriageway and single A road are actually quite quiet, while some B roads are busy nightmares, which you'd never know from the map.


Murray Barnes 25 Mar 10:57  

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kingal86,

I recently discovered another option: Via Michelin, which has a "by bicycle" option hidden away in there. I tried it out for a route from Glasgow to Perth, and it suggested cycling on the A9, which was a bit disappointing, but the rest of the route was probably ok.

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Roger 25 Feb 10:50  

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Iid be interested in a Nottingham Loughborough cycle route. Is there a an attractive quite speedy one or do I have to mess with the A60?

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Leafy 02 Jun 17:24  

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I have just added Nottingham-Derby route 6, although it's awaiting moderation at present. I will also put up the short link route from route 6 down into Nottingham city centre at some point - route 6 doesn't actually go all the way into Nottingham, it skirts the city centre. The link route is very short and easy but I didn't want to plot it as part of route 6 because officially it's not part of it.

I agree about Sustrans though. I got their guide to route 6, Derby-York, and it's just so damn vague about everything. I know it covers a long way and therefore proper detail isn't always feasible but I need more to look out for that just a kink in the road!

I have resorted to contacting local councils for their cycle maps as they very useful - as mentioned above, you can't go from a normal map because they show the best routes for cars, whereas there may be better, prettier, more suitable routes for cyclists. Indeed, there usually are and these cycle maps show them. They usually show where there are on-road, off-road cycle paths, and where there aren't cycle paths they show quieter alternative routes to busy roads. I guess you lot probably know that already though, and the main downside to these maps is that if you are planning any long journey it would take loads of these maps - I am currently planning to cycle Nottingham to Stoke-on-Trent (about 50 miles as the crow flies) and for that I need maps of South Nottingham, Derbyshire, East Staffordshire, Staffordshire Moorlands, and Stoke-on-Trent. If nothing else it's to give me a good idea of what to expect and even if I don't take them with me when I eventually make the journey, I will use them a lot in planning.

It's my first time submitting a route so I hope it's adequate.

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soren 03 Jun 16:08  

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Happy, I had a look at your Newcastle to Edinbourgh route, I notice it is on A class roads, are you able to comment on how cycle friendly they are?


Leafy 28 Jun 16:14  

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Incidentally, I tried to submit a route for the city centre link from Nottingham train station to route 5, but it wouldn't let me because it was under 5 miles. Bah!

My Latest Route: Jun 2010 Wesport Lake to Stone Via Trent & Mersey Canal

saddleup 29 Jun 14:29  

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I am currently journeying by car frequently from Saddleworth, Oldham to Ross-on-Wye. It has struck me that I might wish to reminisce (at age 73) by indulging in a route (cycle, that is) similar to those done when a youngster....except for the wretched main-road traffic now! Whitchurch, Market Drayton, Shrewsbury, Ludlow kind of thing. It beggars belief that no city-to-city routes seem to be available on the web...I have just looked at Sustrans and CTC and all on offer seem to be circular rather than linear. I know that this moan provokes a challenge....why don't I have a go and let others know how I managed? But I had hoped that there might be some helpful hints to start with......a vicious circle...! Just thought I'd chip in my twopennuth, thah noes. BG


Daeve 22 Jul 17:57  

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Added a route from Anstey (NW Leicester) to Clifton (Nottingham) via Loughborough avoiding the A60, and staying to quiet(er) country roads, rideable tracks (ok for road bike) and cycle paths.


herbie 23 Jul 13:29  

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Try ,

http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/

enter start & finish points and then choose Fastest / balanced / quietest

you can then print off route or download GPX for free !!

My Latest Route: Sep 2012 Birmingham to Worcestor Via Canal

Intrepid cyclist 07 Sep 23:58  

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nah your not the only one, i cycled 5700 miles around the coast of britain this year and found lots of easy to follow routes around the country but also many very difficult and some even impassable even with a mountain bike . But sustrans are getting there with more develpment over the next few years could soon be in line with the reast of europe.



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I use an ordnance survey map and hope I do not find myself "off road" or on a busy road


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